Quacks like a duck.

Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.

I have tried to find the full text of the studies you mention but was not able to find any. Extracts and summaries are useless for analysis so at this point in time I cannot confirm nor deny the validity of your sources. Keep in mind that there are many studies performed which are poorly controlled, blinded, or just performed. The fact that a study exists on a topic does not confirm a claim.

The study on magnets I am actually familiar with. They do not use magnets but rather Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation. To compare this to magnets would be like comparing a plastic spark to an industrial chainsaw. Yes, they both use a sharpened edge to cut but they are VERY different beasts. As for the magnets/TMS comparison – tees, they both utilise magnetic fields but they are VERY different beasts.

It in no way validates the fridge magnet equivalent products that quacks often tend to sell.

Chris, you still have not verified any of your claims and are still trying to play the victim where no victimisation takes place. I am growing tired of this, you have not contributed a single thing to this discussion at all so far and have just wasted everybody’s time which your childish whinging. Please do not return unless you have something with substance to respond with.

For direct from the source cackling from MH, refer to his blogs, “For the Sake of Science” and “Without Apology” I have several copies of the “newspaper” he distributed to my neighbors in the predawn hours, and have reported the incident to the Augusta Police, who are already familiar with him. If you don’t know who MH is, shame on you for copying Myers without reading him.

In terms of RCT studies, I’ve actually been moderated off the endless thread for providing too many studies. I will post here the final, too taboo for Myers, random responses to questions on the endless thread. For many more RCTs I refer you to the endless thread (my Pharyngula attack page has summaries), to Novella’s site (discussion finished under Homeopaths on the Run).

Here it is, an exclusive to Bastard Sheep, the comment too shocking for Myers to allow to be posted (warning: it’s boring)

THE TERRIBLE BLOG COMMENT THAT PZ MYERS MODERATED OUT OF EXISTENCE

I’m sorry to have missed the intellectual furor that is the endless thread. I’m back for a brief, desperate visit to see if any of you have any scientific evidence for any of your opinions on alt. med. Zero. I am heartened that much scientific data has appeared on other subjects. We even have math equations, and recipes.

Dear AJ Milne: You’re right that most of the airline mag stuff is junk, but I want to give you a couple of data. First a negative JAMA study (for Nerd really, because it will make him drool) showing that magnetic insoles didn’t do more than regular insoles, but that putting insoles in your shoes does really help. http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/290/11/1474

In terms of acupuncture, we’ve had fifteen thousand studies. It’s time to move forward. Here’s the latest Cochrane analysis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20070551

Nerd: You have cited no studies of any kind. Here is a JAMA article on moxa use for breech correction.
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/282/14/1329

Kel: Thanks for the link. As I’ve already mentioned, you are far too reasonable to be a big pharma shill. Perhaps you could share this link with Rorschach for his back pain.
http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/8/1081

Rorschach: Hey, magnets change morality? You said it, I didn’t. Here’s the link again for those who missed it. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125304448 Full credit goes to Rorschach for providing the evidence for magnetic effects. Kind of makes you wonder about MRI effects.

Paul W, fermenting things is a risky business depending on the sterility of your starter cultures and kitchen space.

David or any other biologist: I thought the Komodo used bacteria. What poison does the platypus use in its hind leg spurs?

END COMMENT Pretty shocking stuff? I think Myers can’t handle the truth. We’ve got studies.

And yet… you responded.

You simply appear to be beating up a bunch of non-events in to something it isn’t to try and gain sympathy as you’ve been doing from the start rather than address the actual issue here, which is that you are a quack who promotes false medicine which has either been not proven to work, or proven not to work.

If you’re not a quack, provide the proof that you’re not. Peer reviewed, double blinded, well run studies. The only ones that meet those criteria only ever show your modalities do not work and are false.